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11.09.2005

Fate Vs. Destiny

Hey everyone, how’s everyone doing? While posting on other blog… I realized that the topics that I talk about; it’s kinda hard or difficult to respond to them. But I need your feed back to further develop them in my own mind, cuz they’re not complete yet. So if anyone is reading this… leave me something… geez. Anyway, I got into a discussion with one of my classmates yesterday, so I figured that I’d post up my theory on the difference between Fate and Destiny.

Well, as you can probably tell, I believe they are two separate things. Fate is not another word for Destiny, vice versa. This example maybe a little choppy, but like I said I’m still working on the theories (posts are good). If you picture life as a “choose your own adventure” book with only one ending, then Fate would be the end of the story. Since it’s a “choose your own adventure” and not a “choose your ending” kinda book, there’s only one way it can end. As stated before, this end is what I would call Fate. This idea of thinking doesn’t leave room for those that believe they have some part in their own life. I believe I have some control in my life, some free will, and I account for this by Destiny. Like a “choose your own adventure” book, there are key checkpoints that you have to hit… how you get to these checkpoints—that’s up to you. Those little points are what I call Destiny. It is your Destiny to get to those checkpoints; you choose your path to get there. Hypothetically, when you have a dilemma in your life and you have two options [most times you have more]… one says turn to page 23 and the other says turn to page 56 and you choose to turn to page 56. Upon reading the result on page 56, it just tells you to turn to page 23… yeah 23 is your Destiny. No matter what path you take, you still hit Destiny among those points, when you reach your Fate… the things you remember, those happen to be your Destiny or checkpoints. Life is a multi-layered path to one goal, when you go up ladders and down stairs… you’re still getting to the goal, maybe you’re taking a detour… maybe you’re taking a shortcut… either way you’re getting there. This applies with my own theory on everyone having a purpose, those checkpoints could have been your purpose, on a higher level, and your Fate is bigger purpose. Does it make sense to anyone? I think it’s pretty clear.

Anyway, when I presented this to her, she made the note that what if there is only one real path, and there was no other path to take… it was just an illusion and responded with the idea that I have no control then, I would like control I think it’s a very good thing. “The problem is choice.” [The Architect, The Matrix: Reloaded]

Then she asked a very valid question, that I’m not going to answer here because I haven’t thought about it enough, she said if religion played a part. Does religion have a factor? I’m not quite sure, on how to answer this… still kinda thinking about it. It’s a very valid question, [Pinky, are you pondering what I’m pondering?]. I'll have to thinking some more on this, you know I’ll post that answer up.

4 comments:

Risk said...

nice blog dude. i understand what u r trying to say in this post, but the truth is that "fate" IS another word for "destiny"...just look it up in a dictionary...both imply that something is inevitable.
but yeah, i believe evryone has free will and self determination, even though i know youre reading this post, and you have a choice to stop anytime you feel like ;-)
choice is good, fate is fatal.

Tainted Dragon said...

I've been meaning to reply to this... my badd for taking too long. Really though... I don't think fate and destiny are the same thing. I take them separately... here's the definitions from www.dictionary.com.
Fate:
1a. The supposed force, principle, or power that predetermines events.
1b. The inevitable events predestined by this force.
2. A final result or consequence; an outcome.
3. Unfavorable destiny; doom.
4. Fates Greek & Roman Mythology. The three goddesses, Clotho, Lachesis, and Atropos, who control human destiny. Used with the.
[I'm using the second definition for Fate.]
Destiny
1. The inevitable or necessary fate to which a particular person or thing is destined; one's lot.
2. A predetermined course of events considered as something beyond human power or control: “Marriage and hanging go by destiny” (Robert Burton).
3. The power or agency thought to predetermine events: Destiny brought them together.
[Once again... I'm using the second definition.]

Alright with those guidelines... Fate is a consequence/final result and Destiny is predetermined course of events beyond human control. What I'm saying is that we can control which course is laid out [we can choose]... because these courses/paths are pre-determined, Fate is all the same at the end of every path. At the end of all the paths, there's only one fate. How we get there... that's our problem of choice. "Which pre-planned course do we take?" essentially is the question.
If the two were the same then we wouldn't have two different words for them, that's what I feel. That's like saying a mind and a brain are the same thing. What do you think, are they the same? I don't believe they are. I think the mind is something that isn't contained in a material. I think the brain is contained in matter. Notice there's no other word for "body," because there's no way of describing it... it's just "body."

Risk said...

your premise that fate and destiny are different because we have different words is debatable. there are many things that have multiple words or synonyms. i can "construct" an argument or "build" one...what is the difference?
but like i said before...i know what you are trying to say. :-)
to me destiny and fate are the same thing...they are the same concept or word.
but even if i assume that they are different things like you suggest, i disagree that there is only one possible fate (ie outcome, eg death)
and i disagree that the destiny to that fate (ie the course of events you can choose from) is predetermined.
for example i shall now freely make the decision to never reply to this blog again (no hard feelings...i part as a friend :-)_
oh and another word for body is cuerpo :-)

Tainted Dragon said...

I always thought construct as assembling preset materials and building as combining materials that are not already organized. Skyscrapers are "constructed" with pre-cut steel and other materials... while things that are built are arranged with materials that exist as they are and not preset to be used in a particular way.

yes, I know "cuerpo." It's latin, translates as corpse. Corpse is usually a body that no longer functions. So, it's not the same?

I must say... it disappoints me to see an audience leave, but perhaps you have heard everything you needed to hear... would that be predetermined? Maybe... this is where you're suppose to leave.